Community
engagement
My main purpose in this post is to examine
the options for the future of the YRCC that the Shire is asking us to
consider. But before I get to
that, I want to take issue with a couple of aspects of the Shire’s ‘YRCC
Community Engagement Plan’, as presented in SY014-02/17 Appendix B to Ms
Haslehurst’s discussion paper (http://www.york.wa.gov.au/Profiles/york/Assets/ClientData/Document-Centre/Current_Ordinary_Meeting_Agenda/Appendices_-_SY014-2017_b.pdf).
First, I note that the period allotted for
public comment on Ms Haslehurst’s discussion paper ends on 31 March. The paper is only 21 pages long,
but raises complex issues. I
wonder if three weeks will give people enough time to produce a genuinely
informed opinion.
Secondly, the proposal that councillors, shire
officers and community members take a spin around the Wheatbelt to visit
recreation centres in other shires has merit but as it stands is seriously
flawed.
‘Stakeholders’
It privileges ‘Forrest Oval Advisory Group
representatives’—i.e. selected members of sporting clubs that use the
centre—over other members of the community by including them along with
councillors and staff in what I take to be a quasi-official deputation riding
to those centres in the community bus.
Recently, the Shire has been referring to those
people as ‘stakeholders’, as though the rest of us ratepayers who pay for but
don’t use the centre have a lesser stake or none at all in the YRCC’s fate.
By the same token, the proposal suggests
emailing ‘users’ to invite them to make submissions and seek ‘expressions of
interest to visit other venues’.
‘User’ or not, every ratepayer is equally a
‘stakeholder’ in the future of the YRCC.
If the Shire intends to email anybody, it should email everybody with
the same message.
And if representatives of the Forrest Oval
Advisory Group want to visit recreation centres in the nominated towns, they
should have to make their own way there like the rest of us.
I must admit to having a queasy feeling
regarding the Forrest Oval Advisory Group. I tried to find out who belongs to it (apart from the Shire
President, who chairs it), but found nothing on the Shire website to tell me. On p. 12 of her discussion paper, Ms Haslehurst tells
us that the group consists of ‘representatives of users of the complex’, but
doesn’t say who they are currently or how they are selected.
If some of the members are who I think they
might be, I’m not sure I would want to give them the opportunity to cosy up to councillors
and staff in the community bus as it whizzes merrily from town to town.
Comparing
apples with apples?
The shires chosen for comparison are
surprisingly diverse in a number of important respects. What follows is a rough guide based
mainly on statistics gleaned from the DLGC’s My Council website.
Those statistics are a tad out of date—they
relate to financial year 2014/15, and those for 2015/16 won’t appear until next
month—but I doubt they’ve changed much, except in the case of Narrogin where
town and shire merged last year to form a new Shire of Narrogin with a
population of around 4200.
1.
Goomalling: Area 1835 sq. km. Population
990. Electors 690. Full-time employees (FTE) 29. Financial Health Indicator (FHI) a dismal 46 (the ‘pass
mark’ is 70). Rate increase 9%
(compare state average of 8.47%).
2.
Merredin: Area 3294 sq.
km. Population 3287. Electors
2028. FTE 47. FHI a spectacular 97. Rate increase 8%.
3.
Kellerberrin: Area 1916
sq.km. Population 1221. Electors 782. FTE 27. FHI a
brilliant 94. Rate increase 5%.
4.
Narrogin (before amalgamation): Area 1618. Population 883.
Electors 577. FTE 18. FHI a highly commendable 92. Rate increase a menacing 11%.
5.
Katanning: Area 1518. Population 4409. Electors 2419. FTE 63. FHI a highly commendable 92. Rate increase 8%.
6.
Kulin: Area 4717. Population 807. Electors 578. FTE 39. FHI a
remarkable 93. Rate increase 7%.
7.
York: Area 2132 sq. km.
Population 3486. Electors
2461. FTE 47. FHI a mediocre 67. Rate increase a mind-bending 16%.
To my mind, the shires most closely comparable
with York are Merredin, Katanning and after last year’s amalgamation, Narrogin. In terms of financial management,
however, those shires appear to have been well ahead of poor old York if FHI
and rate increase levels are a guide.
Could this have something to do with the models
they have adopted for the management of their leisure and recreation
facilities?
Or in York’s case, is it possible that some
kind of ‘dickhead factor’ came into play from which other shires have largely
been exempt?
Options
Section 4.0 (pp. 18-20) of Ms Haslehurst’s
discussion paper puts forward five options for the centre’s future. We are told that these options
are based on ‘community and user feedback’, ‘expert’ advice from consultants,
and ‘consultation with other local government authorities and state government
agencies’.
Here is a summary of the options and my
responses to them.
Option 1: ‘Shire
Operated’, i.e. business more or less as at present but with a more
professional focus on management, marketing and developing the centre as a
business and greater use of volunteers in fund raising for clubs. This would involve vigorously promoting
the centre as a venue for events and conferences.
A new scale of fees and charges would be
imposed and the vexed issue of competitive neutrality tackled once and for all.
My
response:
Several moves in the right direction, but as a veteran of such events
I’ve yet to be convinced that the centre provides the right kind of environment
for conferences, seminars and the like. To start with, the acoustics are dreadful, the air
conditioning erratic and the centre’s interior barn-like and uninviting. The new scale of fees and charges
for use of sporting facilities would have to be set very high to cover
maintenance and repair costs like re-turfing greens and pitches.
Option 2: ‘Sportsman’s
[sic] Association’, i.e. an association is formed from the sporting
clubs to lease, manage and maintain the centre and its facilities, employ staff
and so on. The Shire would still
be responsible for ‘loan repayments, depreciation and renewal of the asset’.
This was the model recommended by Domenic
Carbone and Associates back in 2009. My intuition tells me that it is the one favoured by Shire
President Wallace.
My
response:
Would being ‘responsible for renewal of the asset’ mean that every time
the synthetic surfaces of the tennis courts or bowling greens should need
replacing, ratepayers would be called on, as now, to bear the cost to the tune
of hundreds of thousands of dollars?
I quite like this option, but only if the lessee is required to meet all
the costs of maintenance and repair of sporting facilities and seek funding as
necessary for renewing the asset from agencies other than the Shire.
Option 3:
‘Lease to a Single Club’, i.e. one of the sporting clubs assumes full
responsibility for running the centre.
My
response:
This option is about as risky as it gets, for all the reasons identified
in the discussion paper. Is there
a club in York big or rich enough to take on such a huge responsibility and
carry it out successfully? I doubt
it. And if there were such a
club, would other clubs and users be guaranteed to get a fair go?
Option 4:
‘Outsourced Management’, i.e. the Shire contracts with a commercial company to
manage the entire Forrest Oval Complex.
This is the model used by the Shires of Merredin, Narrogin and
Serpentine-Jarrahdale for the management of their sporting and leisure
facilities.
My
response: Presumably, this kind of arrangement
results in identifiable savings for the Shire, but I’m not entirely sure of
what they might be other than in the area of staffing.
Bear in mind that this is not a situation
where the company pays to hire the facilities from the Shire, then profits by
charging the public for the use of them.
Instead, the Shire pays the company to manage the facilities, and the company’s
profits depend, one would suppose, primarily on that payment.
Of course the parties might agree to share
between them the proceeds of fees and charges, in which case the management
agreement could turn out to be complicated indeed.
As Ms Haslehurst suggests, taking up this
option would require careful analysis of costs and benefits. At present, I’m not sure that the
option would do much if anything to reduce the current burden on ratepayers,
but I’m willing to be convinced.
The model seems to work for Merredin, though with regard to competitive
neutrality it leaves that shire pulling business from the Oasis Hotel.
Option 5: ‘Mixture of In-House Management and
Outsourcing’ i.e. a management model incorporating features of other
options. This could involve, for
example, the Shire leasing out the bar and gym ‘while continuing to be
responsible for the sporting facilities’.
My
response:
It strikes me that the tavern and gym are the only aspects of the centre
that with good luck, skilled management and a following wind might offer a prospect of commercial
viability sufficient to attract potential lessees (but I wouldn’t bank on
it).
But so far as the tavern is concerned, you’d
still have the problem of competitive neutrality (is there a commercial gym in
town? I don’t think so). It should be clear by now that in my
view, the clubs should be responsible for sporting facilities, not the Shire.
First
principles
So, what should we do with the Splurj
Mahal?
Before we begin to answer that question, we
need, I think, to face some unpleasant facts.
From the beginning, it has been an expensive
and unprofitable failure.
The project was poorly conceptualised, designed
and managed and incompetently constructed.
The centre has done little for York’s
sporting culture and the social fabric that supports it. The clubs were better off where they
used to be, taking responsibility for their own premises, raising funds through
their own efforts and for the most part managing their own affairs.
It has cost ratepayers millions by way of
capital expenditure and hundreds of thousands annually by way of loan
repayments, maintenance, repairs, and ‘renewal of the asset’—like the recent
premature re-turfing of the tennis courts.
It is used regularly by only a small
fraction of residents and ratepayers.
Most of the people living in York would most likely never have set foot
in the place. This will be
increasingly the case as the population ages and younger folk are drawn to the
city.
But we’re stuck with it. Even if an earthquake were to strike
York, and the centre collapse into rubble overnight, we’d still be repaying the
loans for years to come.
What to do, then? In making that decision, we need to go back to first
principles. In my opinion, the
most important of those principles is ‘user pays’.
Many of us remember being assured by CEO
Hooper and his ‘acolytes’ that the YRCC would cost ratepayers nothing because
it would soon pay for itself. In
saying that, they more than once cited the ‘user pays’ principle. That assurance, as we all know, was a
furphy.
Interesting hissy fit on the other blog Mr (Dr.) P.
ReplyDeleteThank you for all the information about the Splurj Mahal James.
ReplyDeleteI am sure the majority of people in York appreciate the effort you put in.
I attended several council meetings when Ray was questioned about the cost of the Forrest oval complex (as it was referred to back then). He gave a guarantee there would be no cost to the community and that it would be a user pays. Why can't he be held accountable?
Yes, it is interesting. it is also perplexing, because whatever David believes I've done to upset him couldn't have deserved such a malicious, crude and ill-founded spray.
ReplyDeleteI thought I would be granted a right of reply, but no. When I submitted a good-humoured response, I was notified that comments were closed to people who aren't 'team members'.
My rejected response ran something like this:
"Good heavens, David, why don't you tell us what you really think?
When I said that the opinion you have taken exception to was 'legitimate', all I meant was that the anonymous person who wrote the comment in question had a right to express that opinion for which, as I pointed out, they had given reasons. I stand by that.
Publishing somebody's opinion isn't the same as endorsing it. Everybody knows that I am reluctant to censor comments, friendly or otherwise. I've published many comments hostile to me, some of them threatening. I believe in freedom of speech, even for thugs, bigots and fools.
So in this instance, where did I tell lies?
For the record, I'm not 'secretly setting myself up to become a councillor', and I'm not helping any one to get a job at the Shire (how on earth could I do that?).
I'm sorry you find my academic credentials offensive. If it makes you feel better, I'll consider sending my PhD back to UWA, but I must insist on holding on to the rest.
Best wishes from 'the bottom of the swamp'."
Here's some more to add to your SPLURJ MAHAL? PART 2. Jim.
ReplyDeleteI have started reading the documents provided in SY14-02/17 Discussion paper - Review of the YRCC.
Page 3 - Review of the YRCC
Revised concept plan prepared by Hodge & Colllard Architects. Listing key features of the revised plan were outlined in 9 specific items.
The two I find interesting are items 8 & 9.
Item 8 - Restaurant, Cafe & Bar - with seating for up to 150 people
Item 9 - Function Venue - For social, corporate and community events.
I attended a Special Council meeting - Link - www.york.wa.gov.au/.../york/.../2015.../minutes_special_council_meeting_2 _july_2015.pdf. (Questions from the public make interesting reading, mostly relating to 9,2,1 Purchase of 25 & 27 South StreeT York - page 13.)
Members of the public attending this special meeting may recall it was freezing cold, particularly for those standing up the back near the open doors. The meeting started late because the Lakes to York Road was closed as a result of a Hay truck roll over and we had to wait for what appeared to be 'hired security' to arrive from Perth. A number of Police were in attendance, including Officers from Beverley.
Shire records:
Page 6 of the above Minutes.
Ref: 2.5 Number of People in Gallery at Commencement of Meeting:
There were approximately 80 people in the Gallery at the commencement of the meeting.
Item 8 - I attended this meeting in the Restaurant, Cafe & Bar section of the complex and arrived prior to the start time of 5 pm and was forced to stand for the duration of the meeting near one of the exit doors at the Oval end of the complex. All chairs were taken and those standing were crammed shoulder to shoulder. Some people were also standing outside on the verandah, including at least two from the DLG. The door needed to be held open to allow the people on the verandah to hear the proceedings.
Question: As official records at the 2nd July 2015 meeting list approximately 80 people in attendance, including standing room only for many, how can 150 people attend a Conference, be seated and comply with OHS regulations?
Item 9 - Function Venue is listed as an additional area within the complex to Item 8 .
Question: Where in the YRCC complex is the Function Venue?
Question: If the 9 items listed are the 'revised concept', was there an 'original concept 'plan and Is a copy available?
The non existing Convention Centre was planned to seat 250. Refer page 5.
ReplyDeleteThere is no way the current facility could fit that number standing up, let alone seat them.
Running any sort of workshop, seminar, conference or meeting there whilst the bar is open does not work. So what's the answer? It can't be both. Which is going to serve the wider community's needs better, be most profitable and have less overheads and risk? I'd say a conference venue as it will bring overnighters plus allow local caterers opportunity-if outsourced.
ReplyDeleteThere would need to be a redesign though - more dollars! But in the redesign office spaces could be made available at a reasonable cost to clubs and community groups, something many seem to need. Let's face it the "Chalkies" town square is a fizzer and were else can they go?
The freeloaders who drink there can piss off down the Castle.
This concept would require a very proactive, dynamic Function Centre Manager not a dual role bar maid. No offence is intended but in a remodelling eveyone should repply for their new job titles.
on Page 8 Review of the YRCC under the heading This recommendation is based on two key factors.
Delete2. Even with local market pricing in place, the council of the Shire of York is required to provide an annual operating subsidy to the Centre of $134,285.00. Full cost pricing will only result in forcing Council to increase process to consumers, making them price sensitive and potentially resulting in a reduction in patronage and lower revenues. A reduction in patronage will leave Council with no option but to increase its operational subsidy which is sourced from general rates.
Have I read this correctly, are Rate Payers who don't use the YRCC subsidising the price of meals for those eating at the Tavern?
Yes, you have read it correctly, and yes, that's exactly what it means. We are indeed subsidising the sports-crazy gourmands who eat and drink at the tavern.
DeleteThe word 'required' in this context is a weasel word, employed to mislead. If the Shire closed the tavern (as in my view it should) there wouldn't need to be an operating subsidy and the Shire could save money by getting rid of staff.
Friends, make no mistake, we are being taken for a ride. More than 80% of us fund the hobbies and pastimes of less than 20%. And to cap it all, we subsidise their munching and swigging. In my view, it's a swindle. If you agree, let the Shire and your councillors know.
To all those bloggers anonymous and not you are appreciated
ReplyDeleteJust one more thought albeit quotation. When going through hell just keep going.
ReplyDeleteThere's a beautiful song Whispering Hope.
DeleteWe were taught to sing and harmonise this song by our Mother. I now use it as a tool to find some peace until the hell in York comes to an end.
Thank you Dr. Plumridge for providing us with very useful information about the YRCC.
ReplyDeletePeople now have a chance to have their say on it's future. If residents are not happy with their rates being funnelled into the YRCC now is the time to say so.
If you and your family DO NOT use the YRCC facilities, you have a right to object to your rates being used to subsidise the few who do use it.
Your submission does not need to be long. A simple paragraph expressing your views is all you need to write.
I have just read the new look Shire's Community Update page in the YDCM and it is the most informative page ever.
ReplyDeleteWhat a great idea to include a Behind the Scenes section - for the first time ever, we have been provided with an insight into the positive improvements and changes within the Administration.
Have also just had a flick through the YDCM and absolutely disgusted that the MRD has still bulldozed all the trees along the Quairading Road. Bloody unbelievable. What was the Shire doing at this point in time? We should be keeping as many trees as possible, esp. considering the searing heat conditions we experience. I suppose next, someone will get the Men of the Trees to replant, using the locals as volunteers - like we did East of York so many years ago. Also Gwambygine, and the Perth Road and the river and countless other spots around our district. What happened to our Land Management/Landcare? Out of sight, out of mind???
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely disgraceful.
On another matter. With all the hot nights, on top of all the hot days, there are still some nasty little sods wandering our streets at night and entering houses - v. quietly.
I had another one - next to my bed this time, almost exactly 1 month from the last one. If I ever catch the little bastards, NO ONE will find their bodies! Pigs are pigs!!
However, all is not lost. Anyone coming through any of my gates after this week, will need to be especially careful. Including night visits. They are going to get a v.v. nasty surprise.
Split blood would be even better. Yeay!!
Main roads advised the Shire of York about the plans for Quairading road well ahed of time - I believe it was in 2013.
ReplyDeleteJust wanting to know is there a way of remaining anonymous to comment on this and or the other blog. I mean completely anonymous.
ReplyDeleteYes, there is - just submit your comment anonymously as you have this time. I promise you there is no way I or anyone else can tell who, what or where you are. Even if I could find out, I wouldn't try to or let anyone else try. I understand and respect why many people prefer to comment anonymously, and I imagine that some of them have special reasons for not wanting to be known.
DeleteYou might not have much luck with the other blog. I think comments there have been disabled, at least for a while - perhaps until David Taylor recovers from whatever it was that made him launch an unprovoked and scurrilous verbal assault against me. (It's still there if you want to read it.)
When were Ratepayers told by the Shire of York part of their Rates would go towards subsidising meals at the YRCC Tavern?
ReplyDeleteIsn't that deliberately under cutting private food businesses in York?
Is the Shire of York allowed to do this?
Answers:
ReplyDelete1. Never.
2. It's not so much deliberate as collateral damage.
3. Unfortunately, yes, especially if numbskulls on council go along with it and nobody has the nerve to complain.
I think it's inevitable that the tavern will be closed for good.Sporting clubs will use/hire the facility. Bookings for functions,weddings,partys, funerals. Sure there will still be repayments and Shire involvement in managing the grounds. Contributions to maintain, upkeep the facilities would be sought and factored in to arrangements. Surely there is a common business model that fits.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't matter what business model you choose, the YRCC will remain a burden falling disproportionately on the mass of ratepayers while serving only a few. Applying the 'user pays' principle will help to an extent, but not as much as we might like, because users won't be able to afford to pay for every facility and service that the centre provides.
DeleteWell offer it out to the user to pay at a higher cost than one might expect.Ofcoarse the Ratepayers will still be paying something toward, but if the sport clubs were made pay a bit more I dont think it will be an end all for them,they may just have to get creative in their fundraising,with some of those funds being raised through the sports bar.l
DeleteI agree, common sense must prevail. The Tavern needs to be closed for good.
ReplyDeleteIt makes sense for a Sporting Club Committee to be formed between all the clubs. The clubs wanted the venue, let them take responsibility for it and figure out how the raise funds, instead of expecting ratepayers who never use the facilities to prop them up.
The user pays principle is the only sensible and fair option, with the Shire of York managing the grounds.
I was never asked if I wanted to subsidise meals. I struggle to buy my own food, without paying for others to eat at my expense.
ReplyDeleteI am furious Councillors involved in the planning and financial arrangements of the YRCC and Tavern allowed this to occur.
Be sure to tell previous Councillors Boyle and Hooper how furious you are and half the current Council. Also be sure to share the previous Councillor's responses, 'cause I'm sure they'll tell you everything and anything but the truth.
DeletePeople would be wasting their breath telling Hooper and Boyle anything, neither cared about the community back then, and they still don't care. The same goes for current councillors who were on the Boyle and Hooper team.
DeleteMust be getting back into my 'groove'. Piece I wrote March 4, getting 'stroppy' over the disgraceful destruction of roadside trees, and there we have it in YDCM, page before the article about the trees destroyed, an advert, (which I missed) for a free event "FORAGE AND FOREST" Farm Planning for Revegetation and Grazing Shrubs. Covers site techniques and revegetation methods and all that jazz. Held on March 29 at YORK RECREATION CENTRE, 9am - 3pm. Need to RSVP.
ReplyDeleteTerri Jones on 9670 3100 or email - "tjones@wheatbeltnrm.org.au."
Apparently covering 'challenging or complex sites', you know, like perhaps revegetation of roadside verges. (Nah, it's all farm stuff, but will be useful)
Parks and Co, refuse to allow the public to collect firewood of the roadsides, due to animal habitat and wildlife corridors etc., and Main Roads , just wander about bulldozing everything. Perhaps if you go collecting dead and downed logs, and you get nabbed, just tell them who you might work for, and you'll get left alone - perhaps!
What a ridiculous situation.
The Annual Electors’ Meeting to consider the 2015/16 Annual Report and other items of general business will be held in the Lesser Hall, York Town Hall, Joaquina Street, York at 5.00pm on Wednesday, 22 March, 2017.
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Posted on: Thursday, 2 March 2017 at 4:41:50 PM
SHIRE OF YORK ANNUAL ELECTORS’ MEETING
The Annual Electors’ Meeting to consider the 2015/16 Annual Report and other items of general business will be held in the Lesser Hall, York Town Hall, Joaquina Street, York at 5.00pm on Wednesday, 22 March, 2017.
Copies of the Annual Report are available prior to the meeting at the Council’s Administration Building or on the below link.see website
Annual Report 2015/2016
Review of the York Recreation and Convention Centre Discussion Paper
ReplyDeleteCouncil has recently considered a Discussion Paper that reviews the history, operations and management of the York Recreation and Convention Centre (YRCC).
The Shire is now seeking public comment regarding the future management options for the YRCC.
The Discussion Paper contains information about how to make a submission and copies are available at the Shire Offices located at 1 Joaquina Street, York.
Submissions may be made in writing addressed to the Chief Executive Officer and submitted via;
Post: Shire of York
PO Box 22, York WA 6302
Or Email: records@york.wa.gov.au
The closing date for submissions is 31 March 2017.
Thanks for this reminder. I hope it will prompt many of York's citizens to let the Shire know what they think should happen and why regarding the YRCC. Don't let's squander this golden opportunity to influence the course of events.
DeleteGood to see the blog being used to remind people about the YRCC Discussion paper and the Electors meeting.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know why comments on the other blog are not being accepted?
ReplyDeleteWhat is a google account?
I believe the blogmaster, may he know peace, is keen to avoid providing a platform for a verbal stoush between readers who disapprove of David's silly, ill-considered and ridiculous tirade against me and others who think it deserves a Nobel Prize for Literature.
DeleteAs for me, I wish David a speedy recovery from whatever it is that ails him. I bear him no ill will.
As for the google account, click the 'Sign in' link at the very top right hand corner of this blog page and you have the opportunity to create one.
DeleteThe National Parachuting Championships are being held in York March 19- 26, 2017.
ReplyDeleteYes is that something the shire have organized or contributed to ? Either way I'm sure they will also be happy to know,it's a good thing for York. Cutting red tape to hold and participate in events, festivals,cottage industries and the like, big and small would also be great for York.
DeleteJames Plumridge 14 March 2017 at 03.05 what a ridiculous presumption, opinion, comment, statement why do you continue with your tirade. Every dog has it's day, let sleeping dogs sleep. Hope you carry doggy bags with you wherever you go.
ReplyDeleteYou obviously don't understand the meaning of the word 'tirade'.
DeleteEqually obviously, you've forgotten to take your tablets.
Congratulations to the owners of the fully restored Dinsdale Building (ex Backpackers) Avon Terrace.
ReplyDeleteIn the window is a photo of the building as it was when first built and the current owners have returned it to its former glory.
You have done York proud - thank you.
Yes looks great.Tis a damn shame the rest of York is virtually falling apart still!
DeleteThe Motor Museum has improved.
DeleteThe ghastly plastic toy army display in the equally ghastly glass cabinet in the window has gone. The 1960's nylon curtains have been taken down and a new window display is more inviting.
Happy volunteers welcome visitors with a smile.
Improvements, even small ones should be acknowledged.
Thanks must also go to Clayton and Barbara for rescuing our old Fire Station building and giving York Barclay Books.
DeleteGood to see the flashing light sign on Great Southern Highway entrance to York, welcoming visitors for the National Skydiving Championships. Well done Shire of York!
ReplyDeleteThe Shire Council seem to be moving forward terrifically on all thing's superficial, presumptuous, and visionary.
DeleteAnonymous18 March 2017 at 02:32 - Will you consider nominating for Council in October?
DeleteYou can't expect much more, or any concrete improvement until the senior management see and throw over all the remaining deeply entrenched leadership,they have been not only lagging but also prohibiting progress for years.
DeleteAnonymous18 March 2017 at 02:32 If you feel you can do a better job at unraveling the mess I hope you will seriously consider nominating for council in October.
DeleteAnonymous18 March 2017 at 05:25 - can't understand what you are trying to say. Can you tell us who the deeply entrenched leadership is?
DeleteTo Anonymous 18 March 2017 at 6:33. I admire and respect the work of some councillors and a few other people over the last few years,their standing up and hard work have instigated some great changes,but it's still very early days.So I will continue to offer criticism and hope that it's found to be constructive,(as intended).
DeleteAnonymous18 March 2017 at 18: I agree, if Anonymous18 March 2017 at 02:32 has some magic answers, put your name up for election and see if you can speed things up for us.
DeleteI don't believe we can expect a decade of mis management to be sorted quickly.
A lot has been achieved and I cannot understand why people are criticising the progress made. Have you forgotten the way this Shire was run by the Hooper administration with residents targeted if they dared stand up to that dictator and his two female acolytes?
Have you forgotten those disgraceful shire meetings when Boyle and Hooper were in the chair?
Fix it once but fix it right is the way to go.
The Community Scorecard report SY024-0317 - Shire Agenda
ReplyDeleteThe recent survey was the first opportunity to safely voice opinions about ex Senior Management, Ray Hooper and how elected members during Hooper and Boyles leadership failed them.
I agree, but there's a lot of room for improvement for the current councillors to communicate more with those who voted for them. On that score, they are no better than previous councillors.
ReplyDeleteBit like the local state politicians, once they get voted in you don't see or hear from them until just before the next election.
ReplyDeleteI remember Cr. Smythe wanted to create an email data base of people who wanted weekly information updates from her.
Why can't every Councillor do this? If it is good enough for a Subiaco Councillor, it should be good enough for ours.
No Facebook please!