‘When I
use a word’, Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, ‘it means just what
I choose it to mean—neither more nor less’.
‘The
question is’, said Alice, ‘whether you can
make words mean so many different things’.
‘The
question is’, said Humpty Dumpty, ‘who is to be master—that’s all’.
What is a’ stakeholder’?
As every gambler knows, a
‘stake’ is the money or other consideration put up as a wager, or bet, that a hypothetical
event is going to take place, like a fancied nag winning the Melbourne Cup, a
favoured candidate being elected to political office, or a councillor’s friends
getting permission to build an oversized shed.
It also means a post stuck in
the ground. That’s no
coincidence. Centuries ago,
gamblers would place their wagers on such a post, and in time, a wager came to
be known as a ‘stake’.
Later, in the 18th
century, the word extended its meaning to include having an interest of almost
any kind in any situation involving some degree of uncertainty or risk.
From the earliest days, it was
customary for an independent person, one who wasn’t betting, to hold money or
goods staked by gamblers, in trust (so to speak) for the eventual winner of the
bet. That person,
predictably, became known as a ‘stakeholder’.
A stakeholder had no interest in
the result of the wager other than a duty to hand over the amount staked to the
winning party (or parties, where multiple stakes were involved).
That is what ‘stakeholder’ meant
until the end of the 20th century. My 1982 Macquarie Dictionary simply defines the word as ‘the
holder of the stakes of a wager’.
I presume ‘stakeholder’ still
has that meaning, but in recent years the word has been hijacked by the
corporate world. In the
hands of government bureaucrats and their equivalents in industry and commerce,
it has acquired a further meaning, namely, a person who has a direct interest
of any kind in the outcome of a given situation.
That meaning contradicts the
original meaning, which applied as I’ve said to somebody who had no such
interest but was essentially neutral regarding any such outcome.
Confusion
We live in a time of much
linguistic confusion. Fine
distinctions in the meanings of words are being recklessly discarded in favour
of bureaucratic distortions and the vagaries of everyday speech.
No doubt influenced by the
prevailing climate of political correctness—no variety of English is superior
to any other, every ‘text’ ranks as literature and ‘all must have prizes’—even
professional lexicographers now act on the principle that paths of grammatical
and semantic usage should always be laid where most people walk.
What does it matter, they say,
if speakers and writers use ‘infer’ to mean ‘imply’, ‘affect’ to mean ‘effect’,
‘less’ to mean ‘fewer’ and ‘stakeholder’ to mean something close to the
opposite of its traditional meaning?
It matters because in every such
instance, a semantic distinction is lost, with a corresponding loss of linguistic
precision. Take the case of ‘less’
and ‘fewer’, which signify a distinction between ‘uncountable’ (abstract or generic) and ‘countable’
(concrete) nouns—hence less bread, fewer loaves; less money, fewer banknotes;
less disputation, fewer arguments; less propagation, fewer plants; less
government, fewer taxes, and so on.
These days ‘less’ is busily driving ‘fewer’ out of currency, and our
language is the poorer for the loss.
I suppose that for those who use
language as often to obscure as to clarify, or simply to make an impressive
noise, linguistic precision is hardly going to be a paramount consideration.
Who ‘holds a stake’ in the YRCC?
Those pedantic reflections—as I
suspect most readers will think them—have been prompted by an exchange of
emails between Suzie Haslehurst, the Shire’s Executive Manager of Corporate and
Community Services, and me concerning a ‘workshop’ (don’t get me started on that
one) to be held for ‘stakeholders’ in the YRCC.
Suzie uses the word
‘stakeholders’ in its bureaucratic sense, to mean persons having a direct interest
in the future of the project. Having made my protest, in that respect I
will follow her lead.
Referring to an earlier email, I wrote to ask her what she
meant in this instance by ‘stakeholders’.
I wanted to know whether the term included ratepayers in general, or was
restricted to representatives of sporting clubs ‘and perhaps habitual users of
the tavern’.
I added that in my view, ‘every
one of York’s ratepayers, without exception, has a considerable “stake” in the
future of the YRCC’.
In her reply, Suzie agreed that
every York ratepayer has an interest in the future of the YRCC. That, she said, ‘is why the engagement
process included the option for public submissions to give everyone in the
community an opportunity to provide input’.
She continued:
In light of the fact that the
operational model and ‘user pays’ principle were key themes in the submissions,
[Council] determined that the stakeholders for the purposes of the workshop are
the users resident at the YRCC. These include the sporting clubs and
event holders that utilise the YRCC on a regular basis and whose members may be
actively involved in the implementation of the future management model(s) being
explored. We will also be discussing with the users the fees and charges for
the use of the facilities at the YRCC as part of this workshop.
To which, after thanking Suzie for her email, I responded as follows:
Without wishing to carp, I have to question the logic of your second paragraph. The fact that the 'user pays' principle was a key theme in community submissions is no reason to exclude the wider community from participation in the workshops. To the contrary, community members who support that principle need to be present to ensure that the people you have identified as stakeholders - who would seem very unlikely to favour full application of the principle - are not able unchecked to restrict its application to the issues under discussion.
I think there is widespread community support for the proposition that 'user pays' should apply not only to fees and charges but also to such aspects of maintenance and asset renewal as caring for and when necessary replacing the surfaces of courts and greens. Is it likely that members of relevant sporting clubs would agree to that? I doubt it.
What Council has decided regarding workshop participation is tantamount to stacking the process in favour of people who have a vested interest in perpetuating the status quo so far as the funding of their activities is concerned. That is a disappointing manoeuvre, redolent of the Shire's dismal past. I'm certain it won't go unnoticed and unremarked.
I forgot to add that the arrangement Council decided on gave ‘stakeholders’, i.e. ‘users resident at the YRCC’, two bites of the cherry while the rest of us got only one. They had the same opportunity to provide submissions as us common or garden ratepayers, but none of us was invited to take part in the workshop held last Thursday. That was unfair.
Without wishing to carp, I have to question the logic of your second paragraph. The fact that the 'user pays' principle was a key theme in community submissions is no reason to exclude the wider community from participation in the workshops. To the contrary, community members who support that principle need to be present to ensure that the people you have identified as stakeholders - who would seem very unlikely to favour full application of the principle - are not able unchecked to restrict its application to the issues under discussion.
I think there is widespread community support for the proposition that 'user pays' should apply not only to fees and charges but also to such aspects of maintenance and asset renewal as caring for and when necessary replacing the surfaces of courts and greens. Is it likely that members of relevant sporting clubs would agree to that? I doubt it.
What Council has decided regarding workshop participation is tantamount to stacking the process in favour of people who have a vested interest in perpetuating the status quo so far as the funding of their activities is concerned. That is a disappointing manoeuvre, redolent of the Shire's dismal past. I'm certain it won't go unnoticed and unremarked.
I forgot to add that the arrangement Council decided on gave ‘stakeholders’, i.e. ‘users resident at the YRCC’, two bites of the cherry while the rest of us got only one. They had the same opportunity to provide submissions as us common or garden ratepayers, but none of us was invited to take part in the workshop held last Thursday. That was unfair.
What
happened at the workshop?
Obviously, I don’t know much about that, because I wasn’t there. But from the little I’ve managed to
glean from rumour and report, it appears that my worst fears were
realised. For the most part, the
‘stakeholders’ present—mainly representatives of sporting clubs—showed little
or no enthusiasm for the ‘user pays’ principle or the idea that they should
take over responsibility for managing the centre, the option they had gathered to discuss.
I understand that all councillors attended except Cr Randell. Others present, apart from Suzie
Haslehurst, included the irrepressible former shire president Pat Hooper and
former councillor Brian Lawrance, each of whom played no small part in the
establishment of the YRCC.
An unsigned list of questions (see below) circulated at the workshop may
provide a useful guide to the mood of participants.
It reveals anxiety over the prospect of stakeholders having to manage
and fund their own leisure activities as well as a contemptuous disregard for the
interests of the majority of ratepayers who have had to shoulder the burden of
paying for the centre at no discernible benefit to themselves.
It also reflects the naïve view that the centre is an asset that has the
capacity in and of itself to attract business and population to York. As I’ve pointed out several times in
the past, that’s putting the cart before the horse. Families move to take advantage of economic opportunities
like jobs, not in search of sporting facilities.
The YRCC has been in operation for several years. During those years,
York’s population has at best stagnated, at worst declined, despite the
existence of what the anonymous questioner describes as ‘state of the art
resources’ incorporated in the centre.
It’s worth reminding the clubs that York possessed a reasonably vibrant
sporting culture before they fell into the trap of giving up their premises and
independence in response to the blandishments of former CEO Ray Hooper, former
shire president Pat Hooper, former councillor Brian Lawrance and other members
of the council of the day.
What happened was sad, not to say disgraceful, but the clubs shouldn’t
expect the generality of ratepayers to subsidise the result of their
folly. If they’d followed the wise example of the Croquet Club,
which voted to retain its independence by staying put, they wouldn’t be holed up in their present predicament.
Discussion
I have no information about the discussion that took place in the
workshop, but I’ll hazard a guess that it included some reference to the privileged
position of the Hockey Club and to how the Shire swindled the Tennis Club out of
a million dollars when it persuaded the club to migrate from its former
premises.
And chances are that at least one of the clubs would have mentioned the
trouble they would have in fundraising and in finding volunteers to work in the
tavern bar.
My impression is that our councillors find themselves in a quandary.
On the one hand, they seem to favour the proposition that the clubs should
form an association to take over the management of the YRCC, including the
restaurant and bar.
On the other hand, they feel some sympathy with the clubs, as we
probably all do (though in our case at any rate, perhaps not with the absurd
sense of entitlement by which the clubs seem to be animated if the questions
circulated at the workshop are anything to go by).
Presumably, the Shire will tell us in due course, or as Sir Humphrey
Appleby would say, in the fullness of time and at the appropriate juncture,
exactly what did happen at the workshop, what was actually said and who said
it.
More to the point, it might reveal what action will flow from decisions
made by Council in the light of what participants had to say about the
option(s) presented to them.
One thing I’m certain of—no decision will emerge for at least a year,
perhaps longer. So ratepayers,
expect to continue for some time subsidising the meals of those who dine at the
tavern, and competitive neutrality be damned.
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The so called 'loss' of a million dollars rest squarely at the feet of the Tennis club Committee. The truth is, it was not a loss, the Tennis Club Committee CHOSE to swap the land.
ReplyDeleteThey had the option of staying on a beautiful site 'gifted' to them by a very generous resident. A resident who, I suspect, believed the tennis club would appreciated and value the gift. Not so, the Committee thought they would make a million dollars IF they sold the gift and move to another piece of land. It's called making a quick buck by double dipping with the Ratepayers paying for the second piece of land.
Legally the gifted site became the tennis clubs to do with what they wished, however I doubt very much the donation would have been made IF the donor had suspected for one minute the Club Committee would sign the site over to the Shire of York.
The Tennis club Committee had two choices and they made the wrong one. They chose to be sucked in by the CEO's bullshit. They should stop squawking and cop it on the chin.
What happened with this generous land gift should be a clear and very loud warning to other York philanthropists.
The Croquet Committee were a lot lot smarter.
As a Ratepayer funding the YRCC, I am not happy the Shire Administration deemed sporting groups as the only stakeholders for their workshop. This is the type of thing we put up with for years with ex councillors (including two that attended the workshop) and ex CEO moving the goal posts to get the results they wanted.
ReplyDeletePublic Submissions lodged for the YRCC were in the Shire Minutes. It's only fair to expect ALL questions and who asked them, together with the answers given at the 'Stakeholders meeting' be released to the public.
Seems Pat Hooper and Brian Lawrence have no shame.
I think the decision to restrict participation in the workshop to users of the facility would have been made by councillors (or the shire president acting alone), not by the administration.
DeleteEasy enough for sporting club spoke persons to front the council, play the part of Oliver Twist presenting empty bowls, when ratepayers filling the bowl are not permitted to hear the performance.
ReplyDeleteI think the community would like to know what the sporting clubs pay to the shire for the upkeep of these grounds.Where is their membership been spent and how much funding is required to get them operational to run the YRCC I made one call today and found funding for groups like this to operate a grounds like the YRCC. I was surprised that it wasn't the shire.
ReplyDeleteWell Mos Cafe closing his doors June 30th shame look like we will loose a lot of his coaches he bought in from Japan and Asia. Settlers will become a drug infested dive again. When will this town wake up
ReplyDeleteLook on the bright side, at least Maurice can sell the buses he bought from Japan and Asia.
DeleteHow could Settlers "become a drug infested dive again", it never ceased to be a den of iniquity in the first place?
And last but not least, how do you expect the town to wake up, when its dead.
'How is the YRCC hurting Avon Terrace?' asked our anonymous questioner. There's an example for that person, ready to hand. I'm told that a group of local ladies used to meet regularly for coffee at Mo's until a person associated with the management of the YRCC cafe tempted them away with the promise of cheaper (i.e. subsidised) coffee and cakes.
DeleteIts always been of concern how the SOY as a provider in a contested market is permitted to be a regulator in the same market.
DeleteThe Trade Practices Act is particularly clear on the exercise of power on what is essentially 'fixing the opposition'.
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ReplyDeleteSorry, Maurice, I had to delete your comment because it contained a sentence that was technically defamatory and could have landed both of us in trouble.
DeleteHere's your comment minus that sentence:
"Hi James
I want to let you know that Mo’s Cafe is not closing it doors. In fact we are very happy with our little cafe. This rumor keeps coming up and i will put some fact towards this town.
We have 112 coaches booked in from now to December which puts dollars into this town. I had a few calls from the companies that a few business have made contact with them and was trying to removed this from us. As i been told unless i stuff this up it will remain with us.
Settlers has been cleaned up and no thanks to the shire it is a lot better than it was and is a work in progress. A family in town is placing people into settlers as a desperate act for monies. This affects tourist and good things people are trying to do. I have sat back for too long and watch All the bullshit in town for the last 4 years i been here. The bullshit and crap i had from the shire make me hold back. I been trying to get alfresco areas for Avon terrace but we are still waiting after 8 months. As to the morning coffee groups yes some of them go to the YRCC and some come here, but the shire shouldn't tout for work at the cost of business in the main street. Mr Russo have had a little to say since i was at Bugatti he sign a contract not to work or operate a hospitality business within 30 kms of York. When he start at the rec center i produce the contract to shire at the time i was told to seek legal advice which i did and the response from the Russo was very nasty. The shire at the time protected him with their legal team. I do have lots of support from locals and i will stay to serve them and anyone who has come into my business no questions asked. I will be raked over the coals for saying but who cares i stay in my world now.
Maurice Buck"
I'm glad Mad Mo's isn't closing down and wish you the best of luck regarding your proposed alfresco area. It amazes me that an application for an oversized shed can be approved in a couple of months but you're still waiting after 8 months for a decision on al fresco dining, something that would help cheer up Avon Terrace. I suppose you haven't lived here long enough and don't have 'important' friends to help move things along.
Cheers, JP
Pleased to hear Mo's is not closing. Those spreading false information about the closure must feel threatened by Mo's success and popularity!
ReplyDeleteJP the delay in approving Mo's alfresco application says a lot about the councillors and administration.
Time someone from the Shire posted on the blog why council approved that over sized shed when they know they shouldn't have, but won't approve Mo's alfresco application particularly when the CBD is screaming out for improvement by way of alfresco dining.
Smells a lot like the previous administration and council.
Don't blame the administration. It's Council that calls the shots. It wasn't always thus, but it is now.
DeleteThe frozen wastes of hell will reverberate to the beating of porcine wings before the Shire posts anything on this blog!
It's about time the York council processed Mo's application for alfresco dining. Does anyone know what the hold up is?
ReplyDeleteJust went into town to check out the Jazz Festival and was shocked to see the public thoroughfare from the Lowe street car park between the Court House and Post office completely blocked with a food van and an ice cream caravan taking up two parking bays in Avon Terrace directly opposite Mo's and the Penny Farthing sweet shop.
ReplyDeleteWho authorised these vans to compete with our local food outlets?
How come the Shire of York permitted these vans in the CBD?
ReplyDeleteThere was only ONE busker playing music in the main street and his music was being drowned out by the noisy ice cream van generator.
the Saga continues with lies and poorly ran events
ReplyDeleteYesterday, a visitor was overheard asking "why is there an ice cream van in the main street when York has it's own Ice Cream factory?"
DeleteGood question. Does anyone know who was responsible for this gaff?
York has Gold Medal award winning ice cream made and sold in York and the Ice Cream Factory have a quaint french ice cream vending push bike. Why weren't they asked to come into the CBD?
It beggars belief!
The shire representative lied to us about where the vans are going to be and why there where in the main street.I have to say that if the people and businesses allow this to continue you will have a dead town with food vans in the main street for events. Im not proud of the things i voiced to those vendors on the weekend but it has to be said. The one answer is the shire gave them the permits for the locations.So their legal right to be in that location was right and nothing can be done on the day.I will go to the shire today and speak to them but i will object to the main street ever been closed again for a event.
DeleteOne of the stall holders said the Community Development officer (and named her) gave the permission for the Vans to be where they were. Why tell the shop owners one thing and the van owners another story? That is really bad! Why allow food vans to compete with our businesses? How can this be called community Development?
DeleteWhy block a public access with a food van? People with prams and gophers could not get through and those on foot had to navigate around the van on to the dirt to get through.
The Shire could consider asking Tanya Richardson for some advice on how to plan and run a festival before people completely give up on York.
I see below a Chamber of Commerce is starting up. Stand united and you will be a strong team.
Thank you Anonymous 29th May 2017 at 00:38 but those days are over for me
DeleteWhat a shame Tanya, it means the road to recovery for York will be a long and very bumpy one.
DeleteThe Penny Farthing sells Ice Cream MADE in York. Why did we need an outside ice cream van?
ReplyDeleteBecause they have not a clue,l mean they may be trying hard,but their imagination gets the better.
DeleteThe New
ReplyDeleteYork Chamber of Commerce
1. Supports, promotes and protects the commercial interests of the York community and its regions.
2. Envision a thriving, collaborative community where local businesses are prosperous, and contribute to a healthy environment and the long term stable employment of its residents.
3. We achieve this by Facilitation, Networking, Advocacy and Promotion.
4. not-for-profit, member driven proactive organisation providing professional services, cost-effective information and support for business.
5. The chamber is the voice of business; whether on behalf of individual members, as an industry group, or the business community as a whole
The creation of the new York Chamber of commerce is a fundamental institution of any community. As a community, we need a chamber of commerce to work with local government. If you have a few spare hours a month and want to see a brighter future for the community than email us with your contact details to yorkchambercomm@gmail.com . This new chamber is different to past chambers of commerce.
Your Sincerely
Concerned
Dear Concerned
DeletePerhaps you could inform the readers who sits on the board of the 'New York Chamber of Commerce', Jared Kushner?
Kind regards
Also Concerned
Can you tell us who you are please Anonymous and what roles you have available? Or is there a website where we could download Position Descriptions?
DeleteI cannot fathom out how to put a comment on the other blog.
ReplyDeleteI believe David Taylor reads your blog Mr. Plumbridge. If I may, I would like to add a comment for David to read.
Thank you David Taylor, I found your latest post very interesting. What you have exposed with the involvement of Gail Mazuik, Tyhscha Cochrane, her sister Tabatha, together with some present and past councillors should sound alarm bells with the new Minister for Local Government.
The WACCC really needs to investigated the Shire of York's financials, procedures used for contracts, Royalties for Regions grants and the credit card usage during Ray Hooper's term as CEO.
It is my understanding, the WACCC's job is to investigate and make recommendations for prosecution IF they find evidence of corruption. Just because people no longer work within the LG system doesn't mean they can't be prosecuted if grounds for prosecution are found.
The moderator of the other blog has disabled comments except for those from 'team members'. Privately, he took me to task for allowing comments on mine.
DeleteSo far as I know, his team consists only of himself and David. So if you're neither of those people, your efforts to post comments on the other blog will remain fruitless, unless the moderator changes his mind.
It appears someone called Martin Price has comment privileges. Maybe he's the owner/moderator. I like how David's been blasting the Shire over the last 10 years of mismanagement / the Hooper(s) era etc, but now the situation seems to have been wonderful a decade ago, when the festival was in full swing. It seems some people just need something to complain about.
Delete>>Privately, he took me to task for allowing comments on mine.
That's because he doesn't know "HOW TO write A SOCIAL MEDIA COLUMN or UNDERSTAND IT (social media) PROPERLY". He should stick to his dinosaur newspapers.
'Martin Price', as I'm sure you've guessed, is a pseudonym, one of many employed by the gentleman in question who is indeed the moderator of the other blog but whose name I've sworn never to reveal.
DeleteHe and I seem to have very different ideas about the purpose of a blog. I see this one less as an opportunity to express my opinions than as a forum for readers to express theirs on virtually any local topic that interests them. That's been dangerous at times, but I don't regret adopting that policy and won't resile from it.
As I've said more than once, the 'real voice' isn't my voice but that of those residents - including those that disagree with me - who post comments. If I changed the policy, I'd have to change the blog's title.
'Mr. Price' is free to manage his blog as he sees fit. I think his approach diminishes his blog's purpose and power, but David has published some outstanding work recently and I hope that people will continue to read what he writes. I certainly shall.
Hi
ReplyDeleteI been approached by a few other concerned businesses to start a chambers of commerce to deal with the Shire and help business in general. Im have heard concerns regarding the past operation and what went wrong. If the new chamber is to succeed we need fresh people with ideas and love York. I see myself as a small operator in the mist of all the problems in York at the moment with council making big mistake with events and planning. That is why i have taken the first steps to see if the chamber of commerce can be started. I have been informed that funding is there for the chamber to operate but it needs to be formed i need people to put their hands up and say yes come together and agree on policy. I can be found at Mo,s any day if you want to chat. I believe in York and has alot of good in it.
cheers
Maurice Buck
Good on you Maurice! A good place to start is to have position descriptions as mentioned above, so people can make an informed decision as to whether they can commit, what their role will be and what the benefit will be. Volunteering WA can help with that. Get in touch Tuesdays or Wednesdays on 96212143.
DeleteHow do incompetent people running a Jazz festival make Jazz Musicians feel welcome in York?
ReplyDeleteThey issue the musicians with parking tickets for leaving their vehicles parked in the main street - after unloading heavy musical equipment!
What were these Musicians supposed to do? Park in Lowe street car park and carry heavy equipment up the footpath passed the hamburger van?
Thats two Jazz musicians who won't come back to York next year.
Bet the Ice Cream van didn't get a parking ticket.
At least two stall holders inside the Courthouse couldn't contact the CDO on Saturday because they had been provided with the wrong mobile number.
ReplyDeletePoor signage meant visitors had no idea stalls were inside the Courthouse complex.
Visitors from Perth went to the Visitors Centre to purchase tickets for concerts at Settlers and the Castle and were told they had to go on line to book and pay for tickets. Those Visitors didn't have facilities to purchase tickets on line so missed out.
Why couldn't tickets be purchased for cash or EFTPOS at the Visitors Centre?
Why weren't the Musicians given parking permits to display?
Why permit mobile food/ice cream vans to compete with our local businesses?
Complaints from business proprietors to the Shire fell on deaf ears and the vans remained firmly in place all Saturday. Our local businesses got shafted.
Ratepayers are paying for a Community Development Officer and expect that person to know what they are doing. Fundamental and inexcusable stuff ups mean many of the visitors and participants won't come back again. Co-ordinating the York Jazz Festival was obviously outside the CDO's ability.
I am fortunate enough to have experienced the famous York Jazz Festivals of by gone years. We had buskers and music all over town, a School Jazz band competition in the Town Hall during the day followed by a Swing Jazz dance on Saturday night.
That is what I want to see happen in York again and If the Shire is serious about reclaiming the York Jazz Festival, the Administration, Shire President and Councillors need to give serious consideration to outsourcing the co-ordination and management to Avon Events and Marketing. Tanya Richardson has a reputation for professionally co-ordinating, promoting and successfully running festivals.
I need to state I am not affiliated in any way with Tanya Richardson and she has no idea I have put her name forward.
What a shame things still seem to appear so depressing in York, both with (what appears to be)the competency of the Shire and the (what appears to be)continuing negativity of its residents...My husband and I have been considering a move to York to start up a gourmet / boutique style of business, but appears this will not be the place to do it. What a shame for both us and York :(
ReplyDeletePlease don't write us off just yet. What might appear as 'negativity' is for the most part the response of a concerned citizenry determined to make sure that the town's resources are deployed fairly and sensibly for everyone's benefit, which isn't what tended to happen in former years. Whatever setbacks may have occurred recently, there's no doubt in my mind that the general trend is upwards, thanks in no small measure to the willingness of said citizenry to scrutinise the actions of our local government and hold it to account. Faced with a choice between apathy or 'apparent negativity', I know where my vote would go!
DeleteAnonymous31 May 2017 at 20:01 - the residents are not negative, they are frustrated silly unavoidable mistakes are still being made. As I understand it, several complaints were lodged with the Shire about the Ice Cream van early on Saturday and it could have and should have been moved.
DeleteThe healing is moving too slow.
I don't blame people for mentioning the weekend bloopers on the blog, we have seen what happened to those who voiced their opinions in the past. I'm not completely convinced it is safe to lodge criticism with the Shire.
Anonymous31 May 2017 at 20:01 - Looks like you've got some proof of at least one resident's negativity with the recent post written about your comment on the 'other' blog. It seems he's not happy just being negative about the shire anymore, he now wants to be negative about comments on a social media blog that has nothing to do with him - because he can't negatively respond to comments on 'his' blog. I do love the irony in him complaining about anonymous commentators on a blog that has the iconic 'Anonymous' profile (from 'V for Vendetta') as its moderator picture.
DeleteI had to laugh at that too! He says the comment is not worth a rat's arse, yet uses the original post again in his next spray! Hilariously funny 😅
DeleteWatch out Anonymous. The other blogger is now making oral sex threats against his detractors! (At least, that's the way i interpret: "I’ll be coming to wipe the dribble off your chin-OK!")
DeleteMore than one person noticed the stuff ups. click on http://shireofyork6302.blogspot.com.au/
ReplyDeleteWhy didn't the Shire run a brain storming session with the people who ran the successful Jazz Festivals of the past? The ones before the Hoopers hi-jacked it.
I don't think it's plausible to bring back a successful jazz festival to York.That ship may have sailed.like bringing AFL crowds to WAFL games. We need to something more befitting to todays market/genre. And surely it would be a good idea not to allow mobile food vans in the cbd.
DeleteIt could be a Music festival incorporating all styles of music.
DeleteDon't let the Shire staff organise it. No food vans permitted, close off the CBD to traffic and give the parking inspector the weekend off!
Information I have forwarded to Jim, regarding something being done about the former Shire staff and stuff ups, includes an offer by a v. hard working friend of mine who is an M.L.A in our new Govt. She has offered to help provide the frame work and wording to those who want to write an application to the Govt. to get questions answered in PARLIAMENT, regarding the disgraceful happenings and resultant outcomes that have been happening here in York for the last ten years or so.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone want to get involved in this? NOW is the time, people. We can get a reasonable outcome for our Town and People, and perhaps reel in, the out of control Rates and continuing action being undertaken by those who think they are 'People of Power'. Hah!
Say something NOW. DO something, NOW, otherwise you are condemned to repeat it.
So very sad to hear Ian Crombie passed away on Thursday 7th June.
ReplyDeleteHe contributed so much to our Town and will be greatly missed by many.
Gone but not forgotten.condolences to the family.
DeletePopped into Co-op to pick up a couple of items on Thursday afternoon and then did a repeat on Saturday morning. Was astounded to see prices had increased considerably on a variety of things from one day to the next. eg. Casserole steak had been on special for c. $13.00/kg, then increased by a $1, one assumes back to normal price. Saturday had increased a further $1+. Just for the weekend, perhaps? AND stale bread. When they are charging over $4.00 for a tiny 'jubilee twist' or 4 rolls, they could at least sell fresh bread. It isn't hard.
ReplyDeleteThen, unbelievably, especially as there appears to be an inordinant number of Pomegranite trees growing in York and all fruiting profusely at the moment, due to all the rain they received earlier in the year - including mine, I discovered that the Co-op are selling them for - wait for it - C. $4.69 (or thereabouts) EACH. Yes, EACH.
When one considers that the bulk of the fruit, is skin and pips/seeds, anybody who buys into this rip off, deserves to be done!
Having said that, they are one of the few fruit that are mentioned in the bible,+ figs and grapes, they do contain just about every vitamin and mineral that the human body requires.
They are an acquired taste and I often wonder about these Television 'Chefs' and in recipe magazines, who insist on telling everyone that they should 'sprinkle these little jewels of colour', all over their food, are they leaving themselves wide open for legal action to get much and assorted dental work done to repair broken teeth.
One young chap was telling me that they had a huge tree with a multitude of v. large fruit, that the kids, on their way to school, were swipeing and chucking up and down the road. I wonder if those kids are aware of the value of the fruit they are using as cricket balls. Probably not.
Make your own molasses out of them and store for future use, or put on street stalls for fund raising.
Oh, and by the way, each and every seed encased in that leathery skin, will sprout and grow into further trees, fruit or shade. Great stock feed. Make fabulous hedges, as well.
You could sell yours to the Shire at $2 each and they could onsell them at $4 each via a food van at their next jam packed festival.
DeleteJames, are you on holidays? When's our next blog?
ReplyDeleteNo, I'm not on holidays (though I did have a couple of weeks in Bali). I've been rather unwell for a while and for that reason somewhat disinclined to put fingers to keyboard.
DeleteI hope to post a fresh article tomorrow, when I shall reach the ripe old age of 74. Speaking of birthdays, did anyone notice that last week this blog was two years old?
Sorry to hear you have been unwell.
ReplyDeleteCongratulations on keeping York informed for two years Mr. Plumridge. Your blog is very much appreciated.
Happy 74th Birthday!