Sunday, 24 July 2016

(MORE) NOTES FROM UNDERGROUND


 New material added 1 August 2016 - Rhymes for the Times

Community Service Announcement 310716

LOST BUDGIE
Has anybody seen BUNDY, who flew away from his home at 70 Newcastle Street on Friday morning 29 July?
Bundy is light blue in colour.  He is very friendly.  He talks, and answers to his name.
His owner, Joy, is heartbroken.
So please, if you see him, contact Joy on 0419 360 639 or 9641 2591.


Question: When is an oversized shed no longer oversized?  Answer:  when the Shire of York planner gets leaned on…

York trends back to the future, with Crs Smythe and Randell pointing the way

In my previous article, I mentioned the surprising show of support from Cr Smythe—and the much less surprising show of support from Cr Randell—for the construction of an oversized shed in Lewis Road.

Well, I’m no longer surprised.  Since I put fingers to keyboard on the matter, several indignant residents of our fair shire have told me that those two upstanding representatives of the community are also longstanding friends of the applicants, bearers of an old ‘established’ York name.

From the outset, I want to make clear that nothing I say here is intended to reflect on the applicants.  They’ve done nothing wrong.   They’re not elected officials, holding positions of trust.  They’re entitled to make any planning application they wish, no matter how far outside policy limits it may fall. 

It’s up to Council, not applicants for planning approval, to safeguard the public interest.

No, fault and blame rest solely and squarely with the councillors mentioned, who appear to have adopted in this instance the dubious view that the interests of their friends should take precedence over the public interest, as expressed in policy, whenever those public and private interests conflict.

Cronyism

I think the correct term for such behaviour is ‘cronyism’.  Even if it involves no greasing of palms—it usually doesn’t, and and I’m sure it didn’t on this occasion—it is still, in my opinion, a form of corruption likely to involve the transfer from applicant to councillor of intangible benefits like gratitude, admiration, consolidation of mutual affection and promises of electoral support.

We’ve seen more than our fair share of cronyism in York.  Some of us may have naively believed that with the election last year of a new council, cronyism would fade out of the picture.  Sorry, folks, Ashworth Road was just the beginning.

Readers will remember that at its ordinary meeting in May, Council wisely accepted the officer’s recommendation to reject the Lewis Road application.   It did so because according to the shire senior planner—who produced the recommendation—the dimensions of the proposed outbuilding were inconsistent with the rural residential provisions of Town Planning Scheme No. 2, and because to approve it would set ‘an undesirable precedent’.

In her admirably detailed report, the senior planner provided a tabulated summary of how far the proposed shed varied in size from what policy allows.  Her argument for rejecting the application was clear, cogent and convincing, precisely what one would expect from a qualified and experienced shire official.

As I indicated in my previous article, the proposed shed wasn’t just a little bit oversize.  It was bloody enormous.  However, the planner noted that a suitable reduction in the size of the shed so that it no longer appeared ‘bulky and out of scale’ could result in a happier outcome for the applicants, and she invited them to discuss possible changes with the Shire.

Sure enough, the applicants re-applied, presumably after sharing tea and bickies with Shire officials and perhaps a councillor or two.  And guess what?  This time, the officer’s recommendation, included in the agenda for tomorrow’s Council meeting, is for Council to give conditional approval.  Let’s see if we can find out why.

But first, we need to have a closer look at relevant aspects of policy relating to sheds in the rural residential zone.

Variations

According to policy, the prescribed maximum wall height for a shed in the rural residential zone is 3m, with a permissible variation of 5% to 3.15m.  The prescribed ridge height is 4.2m, again with a permissible variation of 5% to 4.41m. 

For a property of the size of the one in question (1171m2), the floor area is limited to 200m2, again with a permissible variation of 5% to 210m2.  That’s also the prescribed cumulative floor area of outbuildings on such a property, so if your shed has a floor area of 210m2, that, one might suppose, would be the only outbuilding you can have.

The prescribed side setback from boundary is 10m. 

The ‘revised proposal’—really a new application—coming before Council tomorrow is for a shed of the following dimensions:  wall height, 3.5m; ridge height, 4.56m; floor area, 200m2; floor area cumulative with existing outbuildings, 312m2; side setback, 5m.

These dimensions reflect, respectively, a variation in policy (allowing for permissible variations) of 0.35m in wall height; 0.21m in ridge height; none in floor area of the proposed shed, but a massive 102m2 when existing outbuildings are taken into account; and 5m in side setback.

In rounded terms, this amounts to variations of 12% in wall height, 10% in ridge height, 67% in cumulative floor area, and 50% in side setback.  The height variations may be deemed relatively inconsiderable.  The cumulative floor area and side setback variations may not.

Trashing policy

In her report on the ‘revised proposal’, the senior planner states:  ‘It is considered that the reduction in height and area has reduced the scale of the outbuilding to a size which, with implementation of appropriate conditions will not appear out of character in the locality, maintains amenity and will not set an undesirable precedent…’ (Emphasis added.)  Regarding that last point, I beg to differ, for reasons set out in my previous article.

By the same token, I differ also with her conclusion that her recommendation ‘will not result in any policy implications for the Shire’.  How can it fail to have that result?  Existing policy permitted specific variations of 5%.   Going beyond those variations amounts, frankly, to trashing the policy.

So what’s going on?

It isn’t easy to determine what’s revolving in the bureaucratic mind as it weaves deftly towards a decision or recommendation.  Time-honoured locutions like the ubiquitous impersonal passive construction ‘it is considered’ give the impression that what is being delivered is of oracular rather than human origin, and not to be laid at the door of any breathing person in particular. 

But in this case, rightly or wrongly, I sense unease, a clutching at straws, an ethical tremor, a quiver of professional trepidation—and I have sufficient regard for the senior planner’s capacities to hope that what I sense is really there.

I don’t actually know if she was ‘leaned on’, or by whom, to produce this current lamentable recommendation.   But whatever the truth of the matter may be, something is amiss.

Will Council accept the new recommendation?  I expect so.  Will it do so unanimously?  I hope not.  My guess is that Crs Saint and Walters will vote against it.  Will Cr Ferro vote against it?  I rather doubt it, but I hope I’m wrong.

Some final questions

Finally—I suggested earlier that this so-called ‘revised proposal’ is really a new application.  Was it treated as such?  If so, were the applicants required to pay a new set of fees?  And shouldn’t neighbouring landowners have been consulted again, as the planning application process requires?

If the proposal isn’t to be regarded as a new application, then Council will have to revoke its decision of 23 May 2016.  Has enough time elapsed for that?

Grossly oversized shed, Canberra
A nasty story

On Saturday morning, as I wandered along Avon Terrace on my way to our friendly IGA, my attention was caught by the sight of a mature—but by no means elderly—couple holding placards demanding their money back from a local businessman whom of course for legal reasons I won’t name.

I accosted them near Settlers’ Courtyard and asked them what the placards were about.  They told me that the person named on the placard had signed an agreement to borrow $45,000 from them, but had repaid only $11,000 and was dragging his heels regarding the rest, payment of which is now very much overdue. 

Who would have guessed that something like that could ever happen in York?  I was quite shaken by what they told me.

I’ve had no independent confirmation of their story, but I’m curious to know more.  If you have some information to share, I’d be happy to publish it on the blog.  No names, though, or identifying details—sensibly, I’m taking my cue from the Shire’s decision to withhold the Fraud Squad’s report.


POSTSCRIPT:  And the word of the month is…FLEXIBILITY!


This evening, I attended the July meeting of the Shire of York Council.  Naturally, my main reason for being there was to witness the debate and vote concerning the matter of the oversized shed.


Cr Randell moved to accept the officer’s recommendation.  Yes, he said, the proposal didn’t conform to policy, but what the heck, let’s live dangerously, the applicants had reduced the size of the shed, and the planner had done an excellent job in helping them bring the building down to a more or less acceptable size, and look, the property abuts the agricultural zone, and anyway, bugger the policy, this is the country, we have to be flexible, let’s show some flexibility and wave this one through.


I’m paraphrasing, of course.  I may have inadvertently added a word here and there to enliven the style and substance of his discourse.



He forgot to trot out his trademark line, namely, that the applicants are friends of his and belong to an old York family.  I felt cheated, to put it mildly.


Cr Smythe seconded Cr Randell’s motion.  She added nothing to Cr Randell’s argument, instead repeating his mantra that this being the country, Council should be flexible and let the applicants build their oversized shed.  She, too, forgot to mention that she and the applicants are friends. 

I suppose that when you’re busy being flexible, it doesn’t matter a toss that a few disrespectful miscreants might construe ‘flexibility’ in this instance as another word for doing favours for your mates.

Cr Ferro, confirming my suspicion that she has completely lost sight of why many of us voted her on to Council, spoke briefly in support of the motion.  And yes, she too mentioned the need for Council to be flexible because this is the country. 

It doesn’t seem so long ago that she dipped out on flexibility when she applied for permission to run more than the prescribed number of horses on her property. 

Better luck next time, Councillor.  No doubt unintentionally, you’ve set yourself up for a quid pro quo.

Crs Saint and Walters opposed the motion, both arguing in effect that Shire policies exist to preserve the interests of the whole community, not to provide councillors with the scope and opportunity to create exceptions. Cr Walters pointed out that if policy proves to be unworkable, the answer is to revise the policy, not to disregard it. 

Alas, their words fell uncomprehended on deaf ears.  The motion was carried 5-2.

Welcome back, the good old days of cronyism triumphant.  Beneath the surface of life in York, not much seems to have changed.
 

POETRY CORNER

Rhymes for the Times

Early and late, early and late,
Big sheds sprang up on the York Estate:
Buildings as tall as the Taj Mahal
Permitted as favours to this or that pal,
Sheds wide as a prairie, sheds pricking the sky,
All done with approval—not one on the sly!

Some residents wondered, how came this to pass?
Surely rogues from the old days were put out to grass?
Well, no, not exactly.  Not as you might wish.
Some things might still happen that stink like stale fish.
All councillors differ in means and in ends:
Some do the right thing, others favour their friends.
It’s easy to see which way each of them tends.

So, the deed now is done, but some questions remain:
Pray tell us what happened to Councillor Jane?
And President Braveheart—what led him to stray
From the straight, narrow path into Cronyhelp Way?
I saw no surprises from Councillor Denese—
She had old friends to favour, to flatter and please—
While Councillor Pam, cards held close to her chest,
Having nothing to say, tagged along with the rest.

So did they all flunk on the probity test?
The plebs looking on seemed much less than impressed.

Councillors Heather and Trish, as we’ve come to expect,
Spoke up for the truth—they were fair and correct—
But truly to tell you, they argued in vain.
That’s what comes on York’s council of having a brain.

Young Councillor Trev was the star of the show.
He pointed the way for the others to go.
He reminded us all that York’s in the countree,
Which means that the Council must ‘flexible’ be,
Yes, flexible, flexible, that was the word—
What, stick to the policy?  Don’t be absurd!

Now, I have to confess to once looking askance
At Trev in his role as York’s Lord of the Rants;
He might well have exclaimed, in a voice loud and rude,
“We’re shedding our principles!!!!! Go and get screwed!!!!!
Your grumblings and gripes get us old Yorkies down!!!!!
So button your lips, or be run out of town!!!!!”

But he didn’t.  Then let me give praise where I should.
He’s a very nice fellow—just misunderstood.

(From Song of the Sheds, by Polly Amory)


55 comments:

  1. The facade of HQ building in Canberra says it all James.
    The York Shire facade for some stupid reason was built to resemble it.

    The replica facade on the York Shire building was the beginning of the bullies taking over in York - it seemed to have given those working inside delusions of grandeur.

    Why the hell do we have Policies if the Planner can state:

    ‘It is considered that the reduction in height and area has reduced the scale of the outbuilding to a size which, with implementation of appropriate conditions will not appear out of character in the locality, maintains amenity and will not set an undesirable precedent… OH YES IT WILL!

    Why the hell do we have Policies, if the Planner can simply change things?

    Thats what happened to the Saints - the Shire kept bending and breaking their rules and policies to suit their own purpose, particularly if they wanted to punish people. Now they are doing the same to placate certain people.

    Does this mean ALL applications can now have the goal posts moved - under the 'not set an undesirable precedent'.

    Yep, looks like someones put pressure on someone.

    Also looks remarkably like we are heading backwards to the days if Hooper, Boyle and Hooper liked you AND you had an 'old family name', your application was a shoe in.

    No doubt the ex Hooper Councillors Smythe, Randell and Wallace are behind this. They will only need the support of that other Cr.- anointed by a member of the other 'old family' and the application is a shoe in.

    Here we were thinking things had changed.

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    1. Where in the Policy did the Planner find the term 'will not set an undesirable precedent' - UNBELIEVABLE!




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    2. I smell a rat with this 'amended/revised shed application'. It IS outside the Shire's Policy, so why would the Planner even allow a revised application?

      Has the timing of this agenda item have any relevance to the Agenda item SY089-07/16 – CEO Performance Criteria Process to be voted on today.

      This is not a good look Mr. Wallace!

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  2. Subtle interference? Looks like it. This is the sneaky sort of thing Boyle and Hooper did to help their mates out.

    This application should be rejected with a 7/0 vote.

    If you want the respect of the community Mr. Wallace, stick to the Policy rules





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  3. Once upon a time, the Shire decided to install some deep sewerage through the town. But only for designated businesses, like the Co-op, Hotels, etc, was supposed to run up Macartney Street, to Ulster Road, down towards Forrest Oval, past the School, up to the Hospital and was intended to hook up to an Aged Care, Residential and High Care facility (c. 150 'places') to be built on c.15 acres across from the Hospital, purchased specifically for the purpose, sold by local business man for literally millions, and purchased by a mob, who I understood, hailed from Midland area and had a collection of residential facilities.
    Of course that didn't happen, just made the land worth a little more, not unlike the old Fig tree on land in Avon Terrace, which was removed in the middle of the night and then the land was promptly put on the market. Oh, you all remember.

    Anyway, at that time I requested some info from the Shire, regarding my land. (Jim mentioning) the 10metre setback, having to supply driveways, crossovers, subdivision, power, fencing, blah, blah, blah. Any improvements I wished to make to my property was refused because we didn't have Deep Sewerage!!! Really??

    Imagine my surprise, not all that long ago, when driving down George Street, that is the road which "T-sections" Bird Street and then again "T-sections" South Street, at the Hall, on Forrest Oval.
    Situated on a small block, are a collection of units, perhaps 3 or 4, and literally sit on the boundary. I know this, because the brick walls are up against the houses either side of the building.
    I know not if the neighbours put up any argument regarding the closeness of the buildings, infringement/total disregard for the articles set down in town planning, regarding building practices, and set backs, whatever - it appears to have been passed by Shire and planners.
    Would LOVE an explanation of how this one got away. As I tend not to drive around all the streets in Town - we might be small, but there are a few roads in our Shire, but I do have a sneaking suspicion that this may not be the only example of disregard of our planning laws.

    However, on the UP side, this has now set a precedent - big time, so those of us who choose to do something regarding subdivision of our acreages, or even portions thereof, can use that example when forwarding an application to the Shire "for consideration". May need to buy the odd beer and/or perhaps bow and scrap a little to get it through, but hey, worth a shot!

    Just one other thought, I don't know if anyone is going to attend the C.C.C. Hearing in Dowerin, end of this week, but could be something else to attach to a list of questions to ask of the C.C.C. Hero, working on the Dowering Shire case of fraud/theft, whatever.

    Feel a bit sorry for the current Shire Planner, because clearly there is some pressure being applied. This shouldn't be happening. The people who work for the Shire should come under the direction of our new C.E.O.

    He should be standing his ground in support for the Planner and haul the errant Councillors back into line, for stepping over theirs. Absolutely NOT ON ! They have NO rights over paid staff, these people work for the Community, not the Councillors. If they have requests, other than basic research stuff, that should be channelled through the C.E.O.
    Time for Mr. Martin to show his mettle and stand his ground, regardless of Performance Process due. We know what he is capable off, to go against him because they can't get their way, will cause an uproar within the Community and even harder questions may be applied to the Councillors.
    Recent elections showed Mr. Turnbull not to take electors for idiots. V. close, wasn't it?, and took weeks and some crawling to others for assistance, into the bargain, to get his job back.

    To the Councillors - be care, be v.v. careful.

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  4. Unfortunately Jan, we have some of the old regime councillors still on board and they do not understand or take notice of rules when it comes to their mates - hence the units you wrote about. Next time you drive down Howick street, check out the setback for the Settlers units -there's none! The then building person Tester and Councillors let that slip through - including Randell.

    I have just about given up on our Town ever having a full compliment of councillors who are truly there for all the community. They read the oath, however most do not understand the meaning of the words.

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  5. Well done to Cr's Saint and Wallace for beleiving in the process and sticking by their own policy. God help the York Estates residents and their unassuming neiighbours because now its a free for all with demonstrated flexibility. I will be sure to refer to the flexibility shown in my next application.

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  6. It was Cr. Walters and Cr. Saint who stuck to the Policy.

    Cr. Wallace voted with Smythe, Randell. Heaton and Ferro to allow the massive shed.

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    1. Oops meant Walters not Wally

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    2. If you think of Cr Wallace as 'Braveheart', you won't get the names mixed up again.

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  7. I believe Councillors spent countless hours and a considerable amount of money reviewing every Shire Policy to ensure each Policy is appropriate and workable for the Shire of York as a whole.

    The oversized shed application was voted down 5/2 on the 23rd May, 2016 with Cr. Saint, Ferro, Walters, Wallace and Heaton all agreeing councillors should go by the Local Planning Policy Outbuildings in Residential Zones and that approval of the application would set an undesirable precedent.

    Last night the application was re submitted - slightly amended but still very much outside the Policy - Cr. Ferro, Wallace and Heaton switched sides and voted with Cr. Smythe and Randell, to support the planning application to allow the oversized shed.

    Reasons provided by three councillors:

    1. it's ok because there's farm land next door so it wont worry anyone.

    2. We live in the country and will need to take this approach more often in the future.

    3. The applicant has already amended the plan twice and this decision will not set an undesireable precedent. (I believe it was lodged twice, and amended only once)

    Cr. Wallace and Heaton made no comment.

    Seems we have one councillor who is unable to foresee residential growth, another happy for the residential area to resemble Kewdale and another who does not understand the word precedent.

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    1. There are homes around it and behind it so obvioisly didn't go to take a look

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    2. Roma, I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. Take my advice and in future don't expect too much from those councillors who by voting as they did reduced themselves to the intellectual and moral level of Crs Randell and Smythe, namely, that of a donkey.

      Council has succeeded in changing Council policy by introducing a new principle into the process of assessing planning applications. The new principle is simply this, that it's OK to depart significantly from policy because we live in a rural setting. Surely they must have known that York is located in the country before voting to adopt the policy in question.

      They obviously think of this as a rule they can apply ad hoc, i.e. as they please and not in every case. I say this because they seem not to regard themselves as having created a precedent (assuming they understand what 'precedent' means). Alternatively, if they do understand that they've created a precedent, they've adopted as their own the planner's opinion that this precedent is not 'undesirable' - which it certainly is, for reasons set out in my two articles on the topic.

      Not only have those councillors introduced a new principle, they've also revived an old one - the principle that friendship trumps policy, especially when such friendship extends to members of an old York family.

      Thank goodness we have a couple of councillors, Saint and Walters, who actually have brains - not just spinal cords with knobs at the end.

      It's often said that people get the government they deserve. What on earth have the people of York done to deserve this local government? Admittedly, I too was deceived. Until yesterday, I clung to the illusion that we had a sensible, reforming council. Now the scales have fallen from my eyes.

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    3. The next person who has their application for a king size shed - without the required setbacks - knocked back by council can appeal the decision with the State Administration Tribunal. Remember you can call Crs. Smythe. Randell, Ferro, Heaton and Wallace as your Witnesses.

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  8. Have to wonder, WHY is such a huge shed required? Appears to be 'above average' for a workshop/man cave.
    Do the occupants intend to start up a business from home? Clearly the block is just an average building residential block and not an acreage, large enough to accommodate livestock, e.g. stables etc., so what is the proposed purpose for a shed of this size? Are they parking harvesting machinery perhaps???
    Whats' in a name? A Rose by any other name, would smell as sweet. Err., perhaps smelling a rat this time - again!!! Ho Hum.

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    1. The applicants are retired farmers experiencing separation anxiety from their farm machinery sheds.

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  9. Obviously Jane's boyfriend wants to build an oversized shed at some time in the future and Jane's paving the way.
    By the way, does anyone remember the October meeting where Cr Smythe and Randell refused to step out of policy for chooks and horses........Go figure!

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    1. Its called double standards.

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    2. Yes, I remember. Cr Ferro's partner Ian Hepton applied for permission to keep 4 roosters and 20 hens, and 2 horses, at their home, which is zoned residential, in Spencer's Brook Road. Neighbours had complained about the alleged non-stop crowing of the roosters, which along with the chooks had been living on his property for a while. Apparently the limit for keeping poultry without Council permission in a residential zone is 12 hens and no roosters.

      Neighbours had also complained about an explosion in the fly population, for which I suppose they were blaming the chooks (but maybe the problem was oversexed flies).

      If memory serves, Cr Ferro and Mr Hepton owned one horse when Mr Hepton applied, and were in process of acquiring another.

      Cr Smythe moved that Mr Hepton be permitted to keep no more than 12 hens and no roosters at his property - and for good measure, no horses. Cr Randell seconded the motion, which was carried 3-1.

      What was wrong with those councillors - didn't they know that York is in the country? Hadn't they heard of flexibility? Obviously they've learned a lot since then.

      I'm afraid you're out of date regarding the shed. Some years ago - I'm not sure how many - Mr Hepton did apply for permission to erect an oversized shed on his property. The Council of the day knocked back his application. I can't believe that Cr Ferro sided with Crs Smythe and Randell on this occasion just to pave the way for Mr Hepton to get 'flexible' approval to build an oversized shed. Such a motive would be nothing less than venal. That's not a quality I've come to associate with Cr Ferro. Flexible maybe, but venal, no.

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    3. Should Smythe have voted on Hepton's 4 roosters, 20 hens and 2 Horses application?

      Those attending the meet the candidates evening before the last election will not have forgotten Mr. Heptons angry attack directed at Smythe.

      The atmosphere in the room became extremely uncomfortable for everyone when it became apparent Mr. Hepton has long standing, unresolved personal issues with Smythe.

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  10. What changed Wallace's, Heaton's and Ferro's mind between last months meeting and this months meeting. Erratic!
    Marwick would account for Heaton's change of heart, Ferro just exists on a higher plain than everyone else and Wallace is a real surprise.

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    1. I'm told that Shire President Wallace takes advice from ex-Cr Marwick. Whether or not he did so in this case, I've no idea.

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  11. Come on guys we may not all agree with Ferro but if you listen to her she makes her point in the right way, why punish her for being articulate???? Shes a damn sight better than the foxy lady and the tall boy and wandering wallace!

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    1. You're right about Cr Ferro being articulate. She is a good public speaker, much, much better than me. I remember fondly her readiness to stand up at public meetings and ask intelligent, well-constructed questions that went to the heart of every issue she addressed. In those days, she came across as feisty, smart and independently minded.

      However, everybody has weaknesses. Cr Ferro has two: an excessive regard for masculine power, and a willingness, once she is part of an 'elite' group, to identify with it to the exclusion of almost everyone outside it. Her alliance with 'poor Trevor' and adulation of 'Dave' - I think I can vouch for both - signal a notable drift away from the political stance she used to take up before being elected to Council. I won't try to hide my disappointment.

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  12. I cannot believe the types of people that get elected here. Can someone tell me if every council has dysfunctional representatives or is it unique to York?

    What is it about York that we seem to only get people who want to help their friends and relations. Have people forgotten what working for all the community means?

    I realise we do have a couple of very good Councillors who are trying to pull York out of the cesspit.

    Many were surprised when Mrs.(Cr.) Saint stood for council, particularly after the disgusting way Mrs. Saint and her Husband were treated. She even has to work along side some of those involved in that disgusting persecution. She has proved to everyone that she is one of the most valuable councillors we have because she knows her stuff and goes by the rules. Cr. Walters has nothing to gain by being on council, knows her stuff and also goes by the rules.

    Come on the rest of you, time you pulled your socks up.

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  13. Has the Shire got a policy on dwarfs and the associated problems with height impediment?

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    1. Oh, you're back. I thought you might have been taking an extended holiday in Syria or Iraq. My hopes are dashed yet again.

      I don't know if Council has such a policy, but if it does, I'm sure it will be applied flexibly, like the policy on oversized sheds.

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    2. If they have, its bound to be a short policy.

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    3. If it does, would those of us with height impediment issues be required to apply for a permit?

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    4. Probably.
      Don't bank on Smythe and Randell supporting your application.

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  14. James July 26 @ 3.09. I really think that aligning Councillors Randell and Smythe with that of a Donkey, is doing a HUGE disservice to the Donkeys of the world. Generally speaking they are gentle, intelligent, v. hard working, pleasant and obliging creatures, who rarely complain. Better, slime, something from the bottom of a shoe from a pig pen, lots of other things to liken those offending us, to.

    To anonymous, July 26, @ 23.40 regarding height impediments, perhaps the new shed was to house the tall one??? The weekend away, when you're not away. A 'Claytons weekend' I think the term used to be.

    And as we appear to be back on the subject of those creatures from 'fairy land', does anyone know the difference between a 'DELL and a DINGLE'?, and I don't mean a computer.

    Was just wondering, could have implications in the building code.

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    1. Jan, A DELL is a small valley where Bluebells grow and Fairies go to play.

      A DINGLE is a really scary dark place the Fairies stay well away from.

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    2. As Roma says, a dell is a small valley. The word is of Germanic origin (cf. modern German Delle, meaning a dent or depression). Macquarie defines 'dingle' as 'a deep narrow cleft between mountains' or 'a shady dell', describing the word as 'chiefly poetic'. Dylan Thomas uses the word in his poem 'Fern Hill' - '...the night above the dingle starry...'. The origin of the word isn't known.

      In Dickens' novel 'The Pickwick Papers', Mr Wardle owns a property, Manor Farm, situated at Dingley Dell, where he entertains Mr Pickwick and his entourage.

      There's a seaside town in Ireland called Dingle. I think it's in Munster. I don't suppose it has anything to with shady dells. I just thought I'd mention it, that's all.

      It seems that Roma believes in fairies. She's in good company. Arthur Conan Doyle, the creator of Sherlock Holmes, also believed in fairies and published photos of them sporting together in a dingle or dell. I've never seen a fairy, probably because I exist on a very low spiritual plane.

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    3. Dingle and dell are synonymous. Dingles are small wooded valleys. Dells are small valleys that don't have to have trees (but usually do). Also dales, which are small (possibly wooded) valleys in hilly territory. (http://the-difference-between.com/dingle/dell)

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    4. Can dwarfs live in Dells and Dingles and do fairies get on with dwarfs?

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    5. Lets hope the Councillors never have to deal with a dingle or a dell because it would be way out of their ability to process, if the reasons provided above on the shed application is anything to go by.

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    6. Anonymous, you say 'dingle' and 'dell' are synonymous, then proceed to distinguish them. That puzzles me. But if your point is that the distinction is subtle to the point of insignificance, I would have to agree.

      Thanks for the link.

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    7. I must say I'm puzzled by your puzzlement. Synonyms don't have to have *exactly* the same meaning as each other, otherwise there would be no point in the extra words. Rain, sleet, drizzle, downpour and deluge are all synonyms. Yet each of them have a more precise meaning than just 'precipitation'.

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    8. That's a good point, Anonymous 28/7/17:49. Perhaps my etymological bent leads me to take a stricter view of synonyms than, say, Roget's Thesaurus. For me, context is all-important; true synonyms are words that can be used in the same context without significant alteration of meaning. You wouldn't say 'deluge' if you meant 'rain'- at any rate, not unless you were engaging in hyperbole for humorous effect. But as I opined in my previous response, you're probably right about 'dingle' and 'dell'. The difference is too small to worry about.

      You've mentioned 'dales' (a word etymologically related to 'dells') - ask people from Yorkshire if they would ever call the Yorkshire Dales the Yorkshire Dells!

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    9. Mr. Plumridge, during the time Ray Hooper and his band of bullies were terrorising York, I think a lot of people in York started to believe in Fairies, it was the only way they could stay sane.

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  15. James, there are no levels in the spiritual world.

    Those who believe or claim they are on a higher level than others are struggling to let go of their ego.

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  16. To all those who have proved info on 'Dingle / Dells' thankyou. Always assumed they were v. similar, but it is apparent, that they can be a little exclusive. Pleased to advise, that I'm at the bottom of a hill (start of a 'dell' apparently), my bluebells are up and should be flowering shortly.

    So, based on advise from those in the 'know', it appears that I have been living in 'Fairyland' for some period of time. Heaven help us.

    Brings us to the old question, are we living in the now, or could we be living in Heaven or even Hell? How do we tell?
    Anyway, I'm happy to believe in fairies, just need to see a few around the bottom of the garden. I would be absolutely delighted. (perhaps more alcohol??)
    I wonder if they can provide benefits, like Irelands' - 'little people', (not Dwarves). A large rainbow and bags of gold would be gratefully received. Perhaps this weekend and $20 million. Yeah, that would be good.

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  17. We used to be in Hell, then Ray Hooper left.

    Hard to tell where we are with the policies being flexible.

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  18. Reader of the blog31 July 2016 at 03:17

    Good to see both 'Event Boards" at the entrances to York are being used - heaps of events happening.

    What a wonderful idea to put the missing budgie community notice on the blog. With so many local people reading the blog regularly I am sure Bundy will be home with his Mum before too long.

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  19. Those promotion boards have been vacant, and covered with cobwebs, for years as a result of the interference by councillors and ex ceo Hooper. Every Festival York was famous for was destroyed.

    We lost the Jazz Festival because the Shire Administration - with full council support - fenced off this event and charged people a fortune to get inside. This is what happens when fools with no experience in running Festivals are put in charge, or in this case, take control. If they had not interfered, left it as the successful open street festival it was, York would still have the Jazz Festival.

    Cr. Pat Hooper was more interested in having his photo taken with visiting musicians than he was about making the event successful.

    Hope those councillors and ex ceo Hooper are taking notice of the progress being made to rebuild York.

    Has anyone noticed the improvement in the atmosphere in the Administration office? Staff are more friendly and smiling.

    Go York!

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    1. Love the Poem - you got it in a nutshell!

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  20. On the subject of Councillor Pam, heard there was a complaint lodged against her. Does anyone know the outcome?

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  21. Does anyone know if any York people attended the C.C.C. hearing up in Dowerin, last Thursday & Friday, or if anyone has heard what the outcome might have been? Make any contact with C.C.C. people, perhaps?

    Could have been a great opportunity for York to find out; what, how, when , where and why of the dealings of C.C.C. and results that might reflect on past Shire stuff ups, here.

    If nothing done, means an opportunity lost. Shame. Perhaps we will never pull out of this mire.
    However if anyone could give us positive info, would love to hear it.

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    1. I've read reports of what emerged at the CCC 'inquest' in Dowerin. There are implications for us here in York in the CCC findings. I think York was treated shamefully by the CCC and I think I know why. Anyway, I'm working on an article about it for the blog.

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    2. I look forward to your article James.
      The following brought a smile to my face, then tears. Why was it handled so badly in York?

      The anti-corruption body said the examinations would expose how local government authorities cannot afford to be complacent and the need to ensure effective measures are in place to discourage and reduce the risk and incidence of misconduct.

      "This is particularly true in regional or smaller organisations where there may be fewer people involved in transactions and individual personalities may exert significant influence", the CCC statement said.

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    3. Anonymous2 August 2016 at 03:13 - unless is involves the Shire of York.
      Blocks have been put in front of every person who has tried to expose what was happening here in York. You only have to read the Fitzgerald report to see what happened to those asking questions.
      How come the Department of Local Government and the Minister stood by and did nothing to help these people?
      How come the Minister and the Department allowed just three councillors to vote to make the Fitzgerald report confidential? That was an illegal meeting.
      Where are the Minutes for that special meeting?
      It does appear things were put in place to protect those involved why?

      I also look forward to reading your article on Dowerin CCC.

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  22. Time our Shire President dealt with this issue once and for all - get a full independent audit done.

    Standing by with his head in a bucket of sand is not going to make this go away. Is he trying to protect someone?

    If York is to recover, the ratepayers have a right to know where we stand financially and what that white elephant on Forrest oval cost. We should also be provided with a full spread sheet on the ex CEO's credit card spending.









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  23. Putting James Best in charge of the York ccc investigation was akin to putting Cardinal Pell in charge of the christian peadophilia investigation.
    Ray Hooper and Pat Hooper are above the law, they obviously have powerful connections in high or perhaps holy places.

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    1. Please, give Cardinal Pell a break. I'm no fan, but the ABC has subjected him to a vicious 'trial by media' in relation to accusations of child abuse that if true might have been expected to have surfaced many years before now. I see it as a fresh chapter in a longstanding Green-Left campaign to besmirch Christianity and in particular the Catholic Church. Meanwhile, devotees of a barbaric death cult wreaking havoc and mayhem the world over are regularly depicted as victims of the societies that have welcomed them in.

      If George Pell really is culpable of the accusations levelled against him, he'll deserve special reproach and punishment precisely because he is a senior Christian cleric. But we haven't reached that stage yet. Let the criminal courts decide, if that's where those matters are heading. (I'm not a Catholic, by the way.)

      Regarding James Best, on the other hand...

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  24. Anonymous2 August 2016 at 18:20 I agree it was a serious conflict of interest. Does anyone know if JB is now claiming to be a CCC investigator on his CV?

    As for Ray Hooper and Pat Hooper being above the Law - they may have felt this to be the case for a while.
    Things are changing in high places. These two may soon find their protector is about to come crashing down.


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